manorhousebey:

remnantsofnonsense:

Over the black rainbow: kuriositet: You know what i love right at the end? When they are all…

kuriositet:

You know what i love right at the end? When they are all sitting around Spartacus, insisting that they need to take him and go? And Spartacus says no?

Nasir.

He says they cannot stay there and Spartacus agrees and says that he can’t follow and Nasir’s face is just. It is…… i don’t have words for it. It hasn’t even occurred to him until right this moment that they can’t take Spartacus with them, that they might have to leave him behind. When it dawns on him that Spartacus won’t live another two minutes. That they can’t save him.

Because Spartacus saved him. Spartacus risked all, his own life as well as everyone else’s to save Nasir after the mines. Spartacus insisted that no one was left behind, no one would be killed out of mercy. Spartacus insisted on saving Nasir although there was more blood on the ground than in his body. Spartacus risked his own, Mira’s and Naevia’s lives to light a fire so they could do everything in their might to close Nasir’s wound and try and save him. Spartacus carried him on his own back almost all the way to Vesuvius. Spartacus saved him and brought him back to Agron.

Spartacus did all of this for Nasir when they hardly knew each other. He did this for a boy who first tried to kill him, and then helped maintain a lie that caused Naevia harm. Spartacus taught Nasir better than anyone what it means to never leave anyone behind, to always give everyone multiple chances for they may yet prove themselves honorable and worthy of position. Spartacus saw past Nasir’s insecurities and mistakes and by doing so he taught Nasir to do the same and so when no one else trusted Castus, Nasir was willing to give him a moment and a chance to prove himself and to speak on his behalf.

Spartacus taught Nasir so much about being a man, about being honorable and about seeing people. Yes, he was a body slave before and just like Chadara i am sure he could pick up on the subtlest of things on people, but doesn’t mean he really saw them. I have seen several times people calling Nasir Spartacus’s most favored son, but it seems to fall through the cracks that that makes Spartacus Nasir’s father figure. Maybe it’s because it is so obvious, but i really haven’t seen it talked about. Spartacus taught and showed Nasir a kind of unconditional love. Never give up on anyone. Never leave anyone behind.

Spartacus never gave up on Nasir (or Agron). They would not be together if it wasn’t for him. He never turned his back on them, but now they are forced to leave him. And it’s all they can do to protect his body from the romans, burying him and marking his grave with Agron’s shield. But they still have to leave. Nasir couldn’t save Spartacus like he saved Nasir. He couldn’t repay that debt, not like that at least

But they can repay it by living. You can see it on Nasir’s face when he tugs Agron away from the grave, that he knows that this is what Spartacus wanted. He fought for freedom. He fought for Nasir and he fought for Agron. he knew all along that he could never win back what was taken from him. No matter how many romans he killed it wouldn’t bring back Sura from the dead. Spartacus always wanted Nasir and Agron to live. He wanted them with him the first time they split up in Separate Paths. He wanted Agron and Nasir to lead the people into the mountains so that they could live. and them sticking together on field of battle was not a problem because he knew they would only keep each other safe, or die together.

Spartacus saw both Agron and Nasir at their absolute worst and all he ever wanted for them was to live free and be happy together.

 So glad someone else said it. Nasir seems to be the son that Spartacus never got to have with Sura. In addition to all you said..which was spot on… The fact that he took a personal interest in training Nasir himself..like he was passing down his own knowledge …his legacy to his progeny..to his most favored child. Okay…this post tore me to the core. 

Yeah, I can’t deal with this right now. 

manorhousebey:

spuzz:

That Nasir left his lead lookout position/Spartacus’ eyes and ears and it went to Castus at the end who rides up on a horse to give reports. I think this is also probably a consequence of Agron and Nasir refusing to leave each other’s sides from now on. Nasir can’t go an scout or lead in that duty because Agron would need to be with him and 1. Agron is probably not as quick and experienced as a scout 2. He’s larger overall which makes him more of a liability to scouting and 3. Nasir and Agron are needed at Spartacus’ side, whether for strategy or just as his family, for support.

It confirms the change in position to General from last episode to me. So Nasir has been a General for I think months at this point. I mean that scouting indication and Agron and Nasir commanding and organizing the battlefield and the various maneuvers of it. Confirmed.

Obviously they’re now basically like co-regents after the rebellion. Until they get to the goat farm. Then it’s just marriage city.

Whimper

remnantsofnonsense:

nagron12:

diva35801:

What is this I am seeing about nasir being a Mary sue…aftering giving it thought. answer. Last season. hell no. This season…somewhat. Because SDK has pushed every character, including Spartacus, to the back burner to tell Gannicus poor excuse for a story arc. Nasir has suffered for air time and…

well, firstly… one of supposedly good friends of Nasirs are Lugo and Gannicus… secondly… Nasir neither Agron existed in the first place so they storyline is a matter of mirracle existence in Spartacus universe … thirdly… nagron has a huge space and time spending on our screens in WotD comparing to Vengeance and certainly comparing to other “non-heterosexual” couples in the show ever… and even if I do not think Spartacus is a historical TV series (because SDK is willingly going against our version of history or even against our thinking about history as an “objective” “science”) SDK is using some of the important historical parts for Spartacus and he is looking at Gannicus as a leader… and since this character was constructed as possibly everything but leader he has to push narrative a bit to get there… and regarding Nasir and women dirung that nagron postbreaking scene… well how would you - as a screewriter and directer - sorted the scene out? it was played in a rebel camp - so no Romans - it was a scene where rebels are dividing and saying goodbyes to each other… obviously there was a need not to show Agron and Nasir with each other (to torture us!!!!) … there was a need to have Spartacus and Crixus moment bfore Crixus falls… and also Gannicus as Crixus friend and brother in arms had to be shown at Sibyls side… so… really not many choices left for Nasir… of course he could be shown in some dark lonely corner… alone… but it is not Nasir at all… he is a lover, warrior, brother in arms and do not for a second forget he is a skilled killer… and just to sum up… I really do not think there is a single lead or regular character who wouldnt be complex and highly complicated… Nasir is obviously romantized by viewers but that does not mean SDK made him flawless… he kills people to survive…   

also, I would like to ask what is wrong with women company???? why is it so disturbing to be shown with women… and especially female characters of Spartacus show??

BINGO… I do not think Nasir keeping the company of woman often is playing up to a gay stereotype. Actually it makes more sense that he does because of how he MAY have grown up as a body slave. Think about it. Chadara was his friend  while still a slave . In addition to the fact …and this is just me SPECULATING… With Nasir’s Dominus being able to demand sexual actions, it was probably not something he ever had to deal with and endure with the women he was surrounded with. Probably making him more at ease with them. Like I said..that is all speculation. But he and Lugo are usually together in their duties.. 

And aas was pointed out..what is wrong with the company of women? 

Perfect meta, love this.:)

aeternium:

You want a list of Nasir’s character flaws? Here you go:

• He’s obstinate
• He’s pissy
• He fails to call Agron out on his shit
• He completely ignored his best friend as soon as he fell in love with Agron and by the time he noticed she wasn’t doing too well it was too late because there was an arrow in her throat
• He swings wildly between letting people take advantage of him and being a hardass who gets into blood feuds over people falling asleep on guard duty and mocking his size

But you know what? All these things just make him all the more interesting and dynamic to those of us who love him, and there’s clear reasoning for all of it. A ‘character flaw’ is a shitty concept because all it does is create the character more fully and vibrantly. Mira’s hopeless love for Spartacus is in essence a character flaw but we don’t fault her for it because there’s so much context there. Just as we don’t fault Nasir for his flaws because it’s so easy to see what made him that way.

Disney princess my ass.

(via betterrecieved)